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"Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" may be confusing to some users #2797

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sillyjaybird opened this issue Aug 28, 2021 · 6 comments
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sillyjaybird commented Aug 28, 2021

"Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" is still used to describe the extension at:

EFF FAQ [https://privacybadger.org/#How-is-Privacy-Badger-different-from-Disconnect%2c-Adblock-Plus%2c-Ghostery%2c-and-other-blocking-extensions]
[https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-badger/pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp?]
[https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/privacy-badger/mkejgcgkdlddbggjhhflekkondicpnop?hl=en-US]
[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-badger17/]

Now that learning mode is disabled by default this only leads to confusion like issues #2781 #2782 . Clarifying descriptive language at these sites will create cohesion, clarity and help inform users.

@sillyjaybird sillyjaybird changed the title "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers"? "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" leads to user confusion Aug 28, 2021
@sillyjaybird sillyjaybird changed the title "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" leads to user confusion "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" is misleading and confusing Aug 28, 2021
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ghostwords commented Aug 29, 2021

Hello and welcome!

The thing is, Privacy Badger does still automatically learn to block invisible trackers. Unlike almost every other privacy tool out there, Privacy Badger still learns what to block based on how domains behave. No manually-maintained tracker lists needed or used.

The issues you linked to do not seem relevant to this discussion. Could you go more into what made you open this issue?

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@sillyjaybird sillyjaybird changed the title "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" is misleading and confusing "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" is confusing Aug 29, 2021
@sillyjaybird sillyjaybird changed the title "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" is confusing "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" may be confusing to some users Aug 29, 2021
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sillyjaybird commented Aug 29, 2021

@ghostwords Thank you. I posted this issue with the intention of improving descriptive info, e.g. in FAQ, on web store pages, etc. for clarity and consistency. Indeed, auto-learning is still available but must be enabled by users who may not be tech savvy. Issues #2781 & #2782 appear to have been opened to clarify and assist users as well, and led to my opening of this issue. A proposed solution is simple editing of the pertinent descriptive info on FAQ and web store pages. That is all.

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To be clear, "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" is true regardless of whether you enable local learning or not. Privacy Badger learns automatically, period. If you leave local learning disabled, your Privacy Badger still learns automatically, just not on your computer.

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ghostwords commented Aug 29, 2021

I understand that you would like to help improve Privacy Badger's descriptions. Thank you!

However, I still don't understand where you are coming from. Could you talk more about why you think "Privacy Badger automatically learns to block invisible trackers" is confusing? You read that Privacy Badger no longer learns locally by default somewhere. Did you read our announcement article, or was it something else? Perhaps something on Reddit?

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ghostwords commented Aug 29, 2021

Also, I agree that we should update some of our FAQ entries to reflect Privacy Badger no longer learning locally by default.

We might also want to remind users that they should consider enabling local learning.

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