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Suggestion for wave spring installation page #22

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jcwren opened this issue Sep 3, 2018 · 5 comments
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Suggestion for wave spring installation page #22

jcwren opened this issue Sep 3, 2018 · 5 comments

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@jcwren
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jcwren commented Sep 3, 2018

First, it looks like two of the pictures are inverted (washer with straw on table, pliers holding straw). No big deal, the idea is still conveyed.

I haven't yet installed my wave-spring washers, but instead of the straw and pliers dance, what about using toothpicks? Put the toothpick in the screw hole, drop the spacer and washer on to it, then lower the print bed onto the toothpicks, one by one replace each toothpick with a screw.

It might be necessary to put a piece of tape on the bottom of the hole, and possibly clip the toothpick to a shorter length to make aligning the bed on top of them easier. Pipe cleaners may work well also.

I plan to give this a shot when the wave-spring washers I ordered are delivered.

@TheBrigandier
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Hi jcwren,

  1. The flipped images are due to the image submitter's device using EXIF data to determine image rotation, and that breaks on some browsers. Re-opened issue Flipped or rotated images #1 regarding this. The issue was closed due to the images being removed for other reasons, but now that they are back the issue is valid again.
  2. The improvements you are proposing may be valid improvements for the method; however, there's also a method for doing this in a much more rigid way: https://github.com/PrusaOwners/prusaowners/wiki/Bed_Leveling_without_Wave_Springs - There may be pros/cons for each, I haven't verified the new method myself, just wanted to point this out before you tear into this using the previous method.

@sarf2k4
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sarf2k4 commented Sep 8, 2018

@VileBrigandier, I few questions regarding bed leveling without wave springs (sorry for being off topic).

I read the guide thoroughly, during the print temperature calibration, in the guide stated for example 60'c is my usual print temperature and I would have to level the bed manually with 60'c.

  1. What's not mentioned is that how was the bed elevation results if the bed temperature differs from 60'c for example 80 or 100'c?
  2. What about the temperature calibration, should it be turned off?
  3. Do I have to run temperature calibration after doing the locknut bed leveling method?

I am planning to print several types of materials, primarily abs and pla, so this is a concern to me actually.

Thank you in advance

@TheBrigandier
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@sarf2k4,

Leefla in the Prusa Discord is the author of that article and should be able to answer that. I have sold my MK3 and moved the wiki content here from a MediaWiki installation, and unfortunately it set my name on a lot of the articles. Hopefully that will fix itself with time.

Thanks!

@ManuGithubSteam
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You can also just use normal springs for this i used them since my right y rod is magicly 1mm lower then the right one. I use 7mm springs compressed to 5.x mm and they work great

@leefla
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leefla commented Sep 19, 2018

Hi @sarf2k4
The bed level does still vary some with temperature, due to different parts of the board (and the Y carriage) warping slightly with temperature, however I found the variation to be less than with the wave springs, and it's quicker/easier to adjust it if you want it extra level again. I often switch between 60, 85 & 110C for bed, for different materials.

One thing I would recommend is waiting a minute or two after the bed reaches temperature before running the mesh levelling, or starting a print, because it takes a little while for the bed level to stabilize as the temperature evens out across the bed. (same regardless of bed levelling method)

I have not turned off the temperature calibration, but neither have I re-run a temp calibration (perhaps I should, but I haven't seen the need thus far)

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