Idea: Download YouTube subtitles and ask chatGPT to come up with a title name

[UltraHDR]

Hi, thanks for this addon.

It'll be cool to automate the following

1. Download a video subtitles from a service like https://downsub.com/
2. paste that text to chatGPT and ask it generate a title.
3. Upload that title to a server so others can benefit from it

Thanks

[leumasme]

Using yt-dlp to download the subtitles and the gpt3.5 api, this is pretty trivial - In fact I already have a project that is capable of doing this, which I host as a private discord bot for my friends.

The problem is the cost - Using the gpt3.5-16k api, a 30 minute video costs about 2 cent. This is effectively nothing for on-demand private usage, but when scalining it up to a public service or scaling it up to run on all videos just in your homepage suggestions, It'd get very expensive very quickly, even when only running it on popular channels.
Combine that with the fact that this is a free community project, I don't see this happening without a free way to invoke a LLM or many users donating (which I doubt will happen).
Not to mention a relatively large delay of >~15s and possibly mediocre quality of the generated titles

[ajayyy]

While an interesting concept, these llms at the moment do not seem to like being concise, which makes the titles pretty bad

[FireMasterK]

I think the conciseness problem can be easily solved by fine-tuning the right prompt format.

Here's a prompt that I used:

The following transcript is from a YouTube video titled: GRANDMASTER GOTHAM!!!!
You must suggest a concise, sanitized, and descriptive title for this video.

ladies and gentlemen I make a lot of
Chess content and I play a lot of chess
games and one of the most common
questions that I receive is why are you
not a chess Grand Master the chess Grand
Master title is the highest that you can
achieve in the Chess World and I'm an
international Master which is the second
highest title that you can achieve in
the Chess World I've made many many
videos about this but in this video I'm
going to give you a bit of an update uh
on that Grand Master title also say
hello to Benji in the background I'm
going to also show you three games that
I played today against Grand Masters in
a chess.com tournament oh and the last
game in particular is one of the most
depressing chess games that you will
ever see so please do stick around for
all the games or jump ahead to the last
one for tremendous heartbreak in any
case let's jump into the games Billy
Kimball I've played this dude before uh
this is uh now I also understand his
username by the way
so that was the Dutch
all right I'm playing my my sneaky Queen
D4 Sicilian dude
Bishop F4 Castle
okay
this is some approach I I beat like the
quick A6 B5 stuff
it's not bad it's very very risky
yeah but against this like I think I can
play a very quick E5 I think uh Knight
H5
um
maybe just something like Queen E3 is
fine
or G3
yeah maybe maybe bishop G3 so that if
you take this
Billy Kimbo was a crappy character
I I enjoyed peaky blinders a lot I
really did not enjoy the Russian season
and I really did not enjoy I mean I kind
of didn't enjoy season six the Italian
season was and the first two seasons
were great
the first two seasons were great
um
so there's Queen G5 here but but I could
play F4 and after take I can play Queen
E3 okay that's of course a very natural
move
uh if Bishop so the idea is just to play
B4 which I kind of I mean I think I have
to respect
I don't think I really have a choice
okay he plays B4 anyway
I'm a little bit I don't quite
understand
he might be getting a bit greedy here
um
I lose the pawn no matter what but
maybe I just go for Pure development
with something like HG
yeah like I'm I'm I'm aware I'm giving
him the pawn but maybe Knight D6 take
take
looks kind of nice
so Pawn down but kind of cooking maybe
on the dark squares
F4 with tempo right here oh yeah no for
sure
yeah absolutely F4 with Tempo this is
this is cool
why did I enjoy Russian season it was
just very very very boring
it was just very slow and at the end I
didn't even understand what the point
was I watched the whole season and I was
like okay
the Italian season was nice I really
like Luca chongrata I think he's the guy
that plays him I forgot his name
um no I actually quite like this
position I think I think it's actually
very difficult for black to play
uh
I don't know I don't know what he does
not my responsibility though
would a 1500 benefit from the book no
not really
you should not buy my book at that level
if you're looking to improve after
buying my book I mean it's it's
a little bit more like a souvenir item I
mean it's mostly like a merch purchase
or something like it's just a cool thing
to have and I'll sign it for you one day
I think this is a good move just
developing the night I don't see
anything I could have done more
forcefully and I don't think there was
any reason to put my knight on this and
then try to do that but maybe to H5
he's really thinking actually I think he
really doesn't like his position he
might play here and here I'm not really
sure he could do anything else
there it is
um
I can play Knight E5
so he's going to go for D5 right
so let's go here
I mean I think castling for him is way
too dangerous
unless I'm an idiot
uh someone's calling our apartment I
don't know for what oh that might have
been a mistake it's okay
oh
hello
all right we played the time Gambit
against the Grand Master
I'm not scared though
I guess I should have put my Bishop on
D3 originally
to prevent castling
all right
hi Benji boy
it's kind of a wild position was he done
hi
you're gonna take I go here I'm gonna
win all his pieces momentarily
his Rook is completely trapped
nice
foreign
I'll take on D7 he can go here
oh [ __ ]
how did I blunder that
oh my god what have I
what
oh I won anyway
that was so bad how the [ __ ] did I lose
my piece
oh my God that was that vicious Rook C4
oh my God
I mean I was just completely winning
yeah I just
that was awful okay so that game was
good until it became a total disaster
and then it was good again for a second
the chess God smiled upon me this person
actually very very good this is Maxim
matlakov he's a top Russian Grandmaster
and I've played him before without
knowing what his username meant AKA
Billy Kimba um but now I do now I know
what it means uh and it's after I watch
peaky blinders so in this game against
him I played uh something that I've been
playing recently Benji Benji stop
licking your paw
there's a lot of paw licking it gets all
red anyway I played this variation uh I
made a course on this recently and I I
got a position very early where I played
very aggressively and he won my Central
Pawn but the cost of winning my Central
Pawn was the following position where I
really thought I had a great thing going
on here and generally you know I'm an
attacking player I understand Dynamic
positions very very well uh and in this
game I even called it I I said I think
he has to do this I I don't think he has
anything better and I wasn't
overthinking and I was up 40 seconds on
the clock and around here my uh the the
the the phone rang uh and I had to go
get it and I you know I lost a little
bit of clock time but Bishop C4 was a
lazy move I should have anticipated that
he was going to Castle Benji Benji
I've already asked you to stop
stop
thank you
you guys can't see it you think I'm talk
but it's very loud for those of you that
have a pet you know that the pet sits
there and goes
and it's you know it's very distracting
and also it's bad for his paws stop do
not lick yourself
pause or otherwise
um Bishop to C4
um and you know the position that I got
to around here I I was very I was
actually quite confident because I had
baited him into into castling and you'll
notice that I'm down to 25 seconds
that's because right around here I had
to go get the door uh but I still was
full of confidence like I thought I'm
gonna play G5 and I'm gonna get a great
position and right here I I thought I'm
in cruise control I'm very confident
I've got a great position and when I
play confidently against these players
good things happen to me okay
um
he went 95 and suddenly I was like wait
his Rook is trapped and and he can't
play D5 because I win his Queen this was
a disaster of a move after something
like Knight takes G4 I was even thinking
to go here but I can just take because
at the end of it I have another Fork so
so I'm I'm just completely winning now
I get a good position against the Grand
Master
Sky starts falling for me my heart
starts pounding dude
my hand this heavy on the mouse and I
start realizing he's gonna give away the
bishop and then right here I'm like I I
shouldn't take the pawn because he's
gonna get a big attack which is deranged
thinking like that's just a free Pawn so
I'm like okay I'm gonna bring my Bishop
back and be safe I'm gonna trade the
Queens not the best move you know now he
gets this and so here I'm like I want to
take but I can't do that because then he
goes here oh but I can't do that because
then I go here like just literally just
just defend the pawn like you're just up
a night but I got eight seconds and I
panic and I immediately lose my
advantage I immediately start throwing
the game and by the way even here it's
equal even here like I can move my
Bishop somewhere that's not there like
here and and and and you know I can go
after this pawn and like the game is
still going on instead I completely
throw it I mean I play A3 which is just
an insane move I lose that pawn I go
here and then by a miracle of God my
opponent Flags uh like I I could have
very easily lost this game so
in this game we got the Gotham special
we got me playing an aggressive opening
against the Grand Master getting to a
position that I like and I and I think I
have a feel for getting a fantastic
situation on the board even a bit of a
Time Advantage proceed to completely
lose the time Advantage still get into a
completely winning position panic and
lose the position uh advantage and then
I still manage to win somehow
so I managed to win this game against
like a former number 20 ranked player in
the world the next two games that you
are going to watch uh are are
heartbreaking
um in different ways uh let's start with
the first one I'm playing Bach I've
played Bach before
no
what what happened
did you disconnect
I see
completion Page Six
Bishop H6 is the professional variation
um now E5 rookie eight uh I think
against this I can just play A4 but King
B1 was also fine
this is all okay he's blitzing all his
moves which is annoying but
should be fine
Knight F3
now let's go Knight F3
yeah we had this line but it was
slightly different he didn't play Bishop
H6 in that game
um
maybe I'll just play it aggressively
like
I I don't know maybe I'll go here
he never played E5 which is like I've
never seen this before which I guess
happens when you play Grand Masters they
play things you haven't seen before
ig5 is interesting take Queen takes
can't I also just go for the
yeah I think this is fine
very cautiously
I think he can go here
and then this
then I have this
take
he has to take
take
it doesn't look like that works
he does it but I don't
what don't I just have Queen D4 what am
I missing
or Bishop D4 no but Queen D4 threatens
mate
so take
okay
so his idea is Bishop G7
isn't he just a piece down
I'll just go here I guess
Queen C6
wow
I'm missing a lot of little things
ah oh my God
I have to get rid of that Knight
am I just gonna be down two pawns at the
end of all this like is that what's
happening
Jesus
that whole combo must have worked
tough
chest is hard
I just have nothing it's completely lost
um
so this game does this game doesn't
actually need much of an analysis uh I
played again this same exact Sicilian
but in a slightly different move order
uh and my opponent Benjamin Bach very
good player by the way I mean he's 3000
rated like that's no joke same with
matlakov by the way so the the reason I
was struggling against Bach is he never
played E5 like
everything I know about this system
involves black playing E5 he just never
played it so we got to a position where
you know like I I'm not an idiot I can
make all of these moves he goes Bishop
G4 and then essentially here I had this
moment uh where I thought should I be
aggressive and that's the best move
according to the computer for example
Bishop C4 Rook a C8 is block played and
then I would play H3 Rook F1 so do you
know why I didn't play Bishop C4 I will
tell you the thought that went through
my head many of you have similar
thoughts like this when you play people
who are stronger than you I swear to you
I swear to you I did not play Bishop C4
because I in my mind I went he's gonna
go here and in some positions my king is
going to be vulnerable when he
sacrifices
Like Mike
what
huh
what the hell am I talking about like
what am I even thinking about
now the funny thing is after Bishop C4
Rook C8 Rook C4 is the top computer move
and then black gets some attack and
white is defending
um so I played passively because I'm
playing a good player and then here I
literally anticipate this move I saw all
of this was coming
and I miscalculate and and and you know
uh he goes here and I go here and and I
see all of this and he does this and and
and of course I miss King takes I can I
can apparently play King takes sack my
queen and win and you know win a bunch
of material but I didn't see that uh you
know I I calculated this far and he
calculated better than me because he's a
better player and I'm just completely
lost
um Benjamin Bach plates and I resigned
here because uh it's not a matter of
losing this it's a matter of I'm just
down three pawns after so I'm gonna lose
now Benjamin Bach in this game played
with an accuracy of 98.9 when I first
looked 99.8 he actually played 99.8 he
got two brilliant moves which was this
and this and his ELO and chess.com is
estimated at
3650. yeah you know what I can't even be
mad about that all right I got
slaughtered and this game is a fantastic
example of why I am not a GM uh he
played an opening that he knew slightly
more new ones than I did maybe uh and
then uh and then I didn't play you know
the the best move because I was trying
to be passive because I was playing a
good player uh and then I just
miscalculated we went down a five move
sequence he saw six moves and after this
entire sequence of moves he is just
winning can't do anything about that
but if you made it this far in the video
uh the last game is depressing I'm going
to show you the last game now please
watch it until the end
I don't even yeah just watch four
like Caro he plays Cairo
another guy who played Knight C3 by the
way the last guy the last guy also
played um
played uh something like that uh he
plays F3 so now we basically have a
fantasy variation
uh I can just play Knight F6 I can also
play Queen A5 Magnus recently played
this queen A5 move
I'm gonna play Queen A5
Magnus played uh Queen F5 check I mean
A6 is not correct in magnus's line but
if Magnus played Queen A5 against
shimanov he would win so have I beat a
grand master before no never no it's
been a dream of mine to be the Grand
Master but I I've never defeated uh I've
never defeated a grand master they're
they're just too strong this might be
this might be my first one though
so
um yeah I mean I'm hoping to beat my
first one
hey please Bishop B3
uh
I have six maybe I can take take Knight
F6
kinda don't mind that
uh this is the idea and then also this
is the idea
it says seven seven yeah yeah it's yeah
yeah seven seven yes that's the score
between me and this guy yes would be
cool to add A6 to the cat you just want
more free stuff that's all you want
you want free stuff and you want 50 off
constantly that's what you guys want
you want me to add things to my courses
lifetime like forever and you also want
to pay a massive discounted price that's
because that's just what you guys are
you know
I be Hikaru once
um no I didn't what are you talking
about
and a hug
you guys are like where's your next
Shale speaking of which sales are going
away as as intense as they meaning the
degree of which that we that we run them
will be
lessening
um I've talked about this recently
maybe I don't remember
but we're not just going to run
violent amounts of sales promotions all
the time we are
no I did not beat Hikaru once I don't
know why you just yeah I mean I I
appreciate you guys trying to make
things up to make me feel nice but that
never happened
Free Pawn
Free Pawn and
I think he's just pretending like it
wasn't free like I think he's just
he's just playing a Gambit that's what
he's doing he's just like yup
I lo I lost the pawn yep that's that was
me
um
he's just he's just like oh God yeah
part of my opening uh
actually his position is not is not so
bad
I don't think I mean it's gonna take me
a while to get to safety
uh do I go for G6 what what do I go for
here oh it's a stressful position
D6 looks stressful
by Castle long
yes this is very dangerous and very
unnecessary
yeah I can come back like he's gonna
play a3b4 and stuff
will he hang a bishop that would be kind
of cool
I don't think he's gonna hang a bishop
but that's like one of the only ways I
can beat good players is if they just
hang all their pieces
I really want to go E6 to free up my
position but I but I
oh this is interesting this is a really
interesting move I really want to play
this
I'm gonna play it I'm gonna Gambit my
Pawn to open up my G file he takes
because you know he was down upon and
now he's not
that makes sense now let's play F6
I think maybe he'll go back
and uh and we're just gonna I guess
we're just gonna go for it that's what
we're gonna do in this game
going forward involves making a move
though so I should probably I should
probably get started with that uh night
takes F3
Knight E5 you realize I was being
sarcastic about what
Grandmasters
I wasn't being sarcastic
you guys always accuse me of the
weirdest things
sarcasm
I don't remember ever beating a
Grandmaster
apparently I didn't I don't know
couldn't be me
if this can I just take
it's just free right
like one of the ways of playing against
like players is just to take free stuff
and maybe
that's what I'll do
in G4 oh then there's Rook G3
Queen H4
this looks active I'm gonna go here it's
a very professional move
[Music]
pork E6
I'm very close to blundering like the
entire game away but I'm gonna do my
best not to do that
six Rook G8 take take I'm gonna go here
oh here he's gonna take I'm gonna take
he's gonna play Queen E5 and he's going
to be a pawn up but ah what
okay
clearly he liked this or else he
wouldn't have gone for it
I don't really like this for him but
let's anchor on the dark squares
F7 just something like H4
what
55 I can take
what I would do to have my diagonal open
for my Bishop oh my goodness his Knight
is hanging
I hung my Rook oh I got too nervous and
I hung my Rook
oh my God
oh my God
oh my God
that's
this game
broke me
um I I ended the stream
immediately and I and I just took Benji
for a walk for like an hour
uh because alternatively I probably
would have set fire to my own house
um or my computers at least I I I I mean
there's not much to summarize in this
game I mean it was a good fight it was a
very interesting and imbalanced game and
I've played shimanov before I've even
beaten him before and you know it I I
freestyled the opening he sacrificed the
pawn I was playing you know Loosely and
freely and I played this interesting
move G5 which was a very interesting
idea to create some sort of you know
imbalance in the position and and I was
worse like I I definitely felt like I
had a worse position but I was fighting
and I was keeping even on time we both
had 20 seconds you know the game kind of
uh devolved into total chaos here when
you know I'm just trying to hang on and
then we get into a crazy scramble right
like right here and suddenly I'm like
I'm winning uh I'm winning this game I
give a check I shuffle the pieces and he
initiates an exchange here which loses
him a knight
and I am not exaggerating when I
couldn't feel my body
like the overwhelming pressure of
knowing that I was going to win this
game I couldn't move
the anxiety that I felt is unlike it's
almost as bad as anxiety of when I'm
about to get a a blood draw I am deathly
terrified of needles uh I will faint
like 20 of the time
the depressing reality of just
scrambling through this end game and
barely being able to make my moves and
then you know why I did all of this
the psychological fear that if I don't
have all my pieces defended I'm going to
lose them
that's why I did that because it felt
safe
it's so crazy how nervous I am this is
an unfathomably unusable position you
can't lose this position
unless you get so nervous you just pick
up the closest piece and move it to a
square and now I'm just lost
um there is a way to defend this
position probably like if I play
actively with my king because my Bishop
defends everything
um
but I immediately let in his King and
now this is just and and I just resigned
and I
um so I almost did this exact same thing
in the very first game uh in the very
first game if my opponent hadn't lost on
time he would have won the game because
I would have panicked and I would have
lost
uh and and this is just like a an insane
sobering reality every time I play this
tournament that I am just not good
enough
and I don't know if I ever will be uh
and and when I choose to come back to
con and this justifies why I retired and
I'm not playing in tournaments the pain
that I feel from these games and and
it's just it's just
it's too much
um so that's the GM update for now
and I thank you for making it this far
in the video
um
wish I could have better news but I
for now get out of here

Suggested title:

Output: "Chess Grandmaster Tournament Recap: Wins, Losses, and Heartbreak"

The results were quite good for this specific video, considering I found thinking of a title for this video quite difficult. 😅

I also think the API charges can be entirely avoided if you spoof requests to ChatGPT's endpoint from the extension if the user is logged in to OpenAI. (Although, I'm not sure what context length the free version has) Other LLMs, such as Bard, Claude, and Huggingface chat could be considered too.

This could be helpful when suggesting a title to submit I suppose.

[leumasme]

I also think the API charges can be entirely avoided if you spoof requests to ChatGPT's endpoint from the extension if the user is logged in to OpenAI.

The ChatGPT UI is limited to a much smaller per-message size than the API - just try pasting your prompt into there. I expect that this will work for none but the shortest of videos. It also requires more extension permissions, adds rather significant complexity (I'd expect), and enters the fight with OpenAI, who will most likely not like extensions doing this.

[neoOpus]

I was just about to suggest this

[neoOpus]

I also think the API charges can be entirely avoided if you spoof requests to ChatGPT's endpoint from the extension if the user is logged in to OpenAI.

The ChatGPT UI is limited to a much smaller per-message size than the API - just try pasting your prompt into there. I expect that this will work for none but the shortest of videos. It also requires more extension permissions, adds rather significant complexity (I'd expect), and enters the fight with OpenAI, who will most likely not like extensions doing this.

There are alternative LLMs with more tokens, it is also possible to distribute the task and divide it into small chunks, and of course, target just the popular videos to begin with... there is a great margin of optimization here and using the right APIs and hacks can get things done properly.

[leumasme]

There are alternative LLMs with more tokens

I have tested claude, which prominently advertises its 100k token limit.
It fails to answer rather basic questions about an uploaded ~35k token script when the answer to those questions is near the middle of the script, strongly displaying the Lost in the Middle effect that is already seen in gpt3.5.
Of course you can split up the script to create independent summaries and then generate a title based on those, but we can expect quality likely suffering further from this. I would say it remains to be tested, but even if this worked well, it would not really be feasible considering the monetary or resource cost attached to invoking a LLM, especially at this scale and even when only processing the most popular videos.
Unless an organization appears that would like to support this project by providing gpu servers or free access to a LLM api, I doubt looking further into this makes any sense. I strongly doubt that a corporation like OpenAI would to stand by idly if you were to abuse the free version of chatgpt through extension users at this scale.

And even with all this - alternate video titles is only half of what the extension provides.

[MasterKia]

Combine that with the fact that this is a free community project, I don't see this happening without a free way to invoke a LLM

See:
xtekky/gpt4free#40
xtekky/gpt4free#802

https://github.com/xtekky/gpt4free

[neoOpus]

This prompt could maybe make this possible

Auto Split Prompt
Splitter prompt is a text that will be used when the user prompt in divided into chunkc due to the character limit.

Act like a document/text loader until you load and remember the content of the next text/s or document/s.
There might be multiple files, each file is marked by name in the format ### DOCUMENT NAME.
I will send them to you in chunks. Each chunk starts will be noted as [START CHUNK x/TOTAL], and the end of this chunk will be noted as [END CHUNK x/TOTAL], where x is the number of current chunks, and TOTAL is the number of all chunks I will send you.
I will split the message in chunks, and send them to you one by one. For each message follow the instructions at the end of the message.
Let's begin:

Auto Split Chunk Prompt
Chunk prompt is a text that will be added to the end of each chunk. It can be used to summarize the previous chunk or do other things.

Reply with OK: [CHUNK x/TOTAL]
Don't reply with anything else!

Borrowed from Superpower ChatGPT

[TomLucidor]

Can subtitle download and LLM processing be done locally?
For the document length issue, are there RAG-like alternatives?