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HOOK2 opposite effect than PAFAH1B1, NDE1, NDEL1: exploration for MorphMap paper (ORF) #5
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Info provided here now: #8 |
Sounds like it's possible this is a known interaction, although if not, the expression and protein protein information certainly lend strength to the hypothesis they are involved in similar biological processes! Given you've confirmed the ORF relationship is 'real' I have renewed efforts to get in touch with someone who is expert (emailed msharma mentioned above). |
Correct, JUMP-ORF:
JUMP-CRISPR:
Current knowledge:
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Negative response from msharma: Best regards, Mahak" |
Next steps: I believe from the above that this relationship is not a shock - it's independent evidence but not a dramatic discovery. If that is correct, then perhaps we just ask the researcher above if they'd like to synthesize all this info to write a paragraph for the paper describing this as a validated (somewhat already-known) story? Let's discuss. |
@tjetkaARD Do you feel comfortable writing up this information into a few-sentence blurb for the paper? Or do you wish someone else to do so? (we could assign to Sam or Jess). It seems we don't need to bother the original researcher though we could ask them to review what we write to be sure it's accurate. |
@AnneCarpenter - yes, will do. 4-5 sentences should be fine. Finalise here or somewhere in the document? |
Straight in the manuscript document would be great. Here is a link to a section stub for this finding: |
With the update of Knowledge Graph Methodology the status of discovery has changed. InitiallyPrevious KG data indicate not very strong connection between HOOK2/NDE1/NDEL1: Updated dataCurrent KG data indicate quite strong connection between HOOK2/NDE1/NDEL1: Nonetheless, I think it is still a solid story to write up given rather recent and scarce literature and focusing more on the mechanism itself, connected with the measured CP channel. |
Hi, sorry for this change in scoring. Actually, we made yet another iteration adjusting for the reliability of the function prediction from KG and not simply a correlation. The updated scores are available here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QWY8itTMeR3pGIt2kWIS5NiOPLhazg4S?usp=sharing With this adjustment, the score between HOOK2 and NDE1 becomes a bit lower and can be considered as not strong if we accept 0.8 threshold. However, I do think this connection scores relatively high because of co-citation of these genes, as reported in STRING |
Do you still agree the next step is to write this up, Tomasz? The researcher we contacted found it not a shocking result so that fits with there being some evidence out there, but still a nice 'discovery' (somewhere in between a novel discovery and a well-known validation). |
@AnneCarpenter - yes; I will write it up until Monday. |
No rush, mid-February is quite fine though I'm always excited to see text added to the paper! |
From msharma: "My apologies for a delayed response. I read the text that you have sent. It is quite interesting that Hook2 has a negative correlation with LIS1 and NdeI. I want to reiterate that I am not an expert on dynein regulation (it is quite complex and outside my expertise!!!), thus, I am unable to fully comprehend the strong anti correlation between these sets of dynein regulators. One suggestion is to see if other activating adaptors of dynein like Hook2 such as BicD2, Hook1 and Hook3, Spindly etc. also show this negative correlation with NdeI and LIS1. The labs of Samara Reck Peterson and Erika Holzbaur have a significant body of work on dynein regulation and on the activating dynein adaptors. " So I did email Dr Reck Peterson just now. We could make lists (using ORF relationships) of the top ~20 matches to the 4 core genes above to see if any other dynein related proteins arise but will hold off on that for now (unless it's easy to just expand the heatmap to include the nearest ~10 genes of each of the 4 genes?). |
Confirmed by Sam Reck-Peterson! |
This recent paper showed HOOK3 in some results, but HOOK2 doesn't show in their hit list, making our connection still new/interesting: https://rupress.org/jcb/article/223/5/e202306048/276601/Genome-scale-requirements-for-dynein-based |
Here's how the connections look in the new profiles. I also included the other genes suggested by msharma ORF
CRISPR KG I also looked for all the genes that are anti-similar to the four main genes of interest in this issue to check if there are other dyenin related proteins. But I couldn't find any. Anti-similar to HOOK2
Anti-similar to NDE1
Anti-similar to NDEL1
Anti-similar to PAFAH1B1
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The heatmap shows the percentile of the cosine similarities (1 → similar, 0 → anti-similar). The text is the maximum of the absolute KG score ( ORFCRISPR |
I think it corraborates the paragraph that is present in the manuscript (only numbers needs to be adjusted). |
@niranjchandrasekaran can you please confirm May 24 is the latest/correct correlation matrix and KG values for this set? Reading thru all this and the paragraph in the paper, I think this story is 'done' but may need reconciling of final figures with the text that describes them in the paper. |
Can confirm. |
This story was included in the morphmap paper. |
We found a tight cluster of PAFAH1B1, NDE1, NDEL1, and those 3 have the opposite morphological effect to the gene HOOK2.
Emailed Sivaram V.S. Mylavarapu Nov 29, 2023: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#sent/KtbxLwgxBKKHZtcxwBdZCLKMjxlVNDmDqV
No reply so then I emailed Jan 5: [email protected] because at least they studied HOOK2: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6400558/
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