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Sony Alpha 9 III (ILCE-9M3) #16523

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norru opened this issue Mar 26, 2024 · 16 comments · Fixed by darktable-org/rawspeed#699
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Sony Alpha 9 III (ILCE-9M3) #16523

norru opened this issue Mar 26, 2024 · 16 comments · Fixed by darktable-org/rawspeed#699
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@norru
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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

I have recently acquired a Sony Alpha 9M3, which appears to be at least partially supported by RawTherapee (uncompressed mode) but not by DarkTable yet. It would be good enough if I could read the same format for a start.

I have submitted a set of 5 ARWs (one per compression mode) to raw.pixls.us.

@norru norru added the scope: camera support adding WB and raw support for new cameras label Mar 26, 2024
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@norru thank you for contributing the sample set!

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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

@LebedevRI you are welcome, let me know if you need more.

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kmilos commented Mar 26, 2024

Thanks, been waiting for those samples! Please feel free to test the PR.

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kmilos commented Mar 26, 2024

Can you please upload the APS-C crop samples as well please?

https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2380/v1/en/contents/0414_apsc_shooting.html

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Can you please upload the APS-C crop samples as well please?

If you do, please contribute a new full set, please.

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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

Will do! I have had the camera for a few days only so I am not familiar with all the options yet!

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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

I have replaced my cameras.xml with the cameras.xml file from your PR and I can see them in the LightTable view after importing them. I can open the large (full size) versions in DarkRoom correctly.
The lossless compressed Medium and Small cannot be opened. I get a "failed to read white balance information" error from those.

I don't have the full latest version of Darktable installed though, I've just "patched" the cameras manifest.

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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

    28.9237 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0007.ARW'!
    28.9237 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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    28.9302 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
    28.9303 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0007.ARW'!
    28.9406 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
    36.1756 [rawspeed] (20240326_0008.ARW) void rawspeed::ArwDecoder::DecodeLJpeg(const rawspeed::TiffIFD*), line 306: Unsupported photometric interpretation: 6
    36.1756 [libraw_open] extensions whitelist: `cr3'
    36.1758 [qoi_open] no proper file header in /home/nico/Pictures/Darktable/20240326_test_alpha_9/20240326_0008.ARW
    36.1778 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0008.ARW'!
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    36.1836 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0008.ARW'!
    36.2042 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
    37.0759 [rawspeed] (20240326_0009.ARW) void rawspeed::ArwDecoder::DecodeLJpeg(const rawspeed::TiffIFD*), line 306: Unsupported photometric interpretation: 6
    37.0759 [libraw_open] extensions whitelist: `cr3'
    37.0762 [qoi_open] no proper file header in /home/nico/Pictures/Darktable/20240326_test_alpha_9/20240326_0009.ARW
    37.0783 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0009.ARW'!
    37.0784 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
    37.0784 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0009.ARW'!
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    37.0973 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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    54.2243 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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    57.5470 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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    63.7151 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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    70.2986 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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    70.3102 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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    79.0798 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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    79.0852 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
    79.0852 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0007.ARW'!
    79.0926 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
    85.4245 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0008.ARW'!
    85.4246 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
    85.4246 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0008.ARW'!
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    85.4316 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
    85.4316 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0008.ARW'!
    85.4388 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
    88.5435 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0007.ARW'!
    88.5436 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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    88.5491 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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    88.5561 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   107.9726 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   107.9789 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   107.9870 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   110.7134 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   146.7218 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   146.7274 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   146.7349 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   160.9517 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
   160.9517 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0007.ARW'!
   160.9633 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   176.9778 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   176.9896 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   188.9213 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   188.9335 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   288.7191 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   288.7238 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   288.7315 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
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   289.0856 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   289.0927 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   289.1077 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
   304.4122 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0007.ARW'!
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   304.7162 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
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   304.7282 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!
   506.3391 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0008.ARW'!
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   506.6447 [temperature] `Sony ILCE-9M3' color matrix not found for image
   506.6447 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `20240326_0008.ARW'!
   506.6567 [colorin] could not find requested profile `standard color matrix'!

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kmilos commented Mar 26, 2024

The lossless compressed Medium and Small cannot be opened.

Those are not supported, as the release notes clearly state. They are not really "raws", but demosaiced and downsampled linear images.

Same applies to APS-C crop: the real APS-C raw is equivalent to "M" in image size and supported as such, but downsampled "S" of APS-C is not.

Nonetheless, please upload all combinations of compression, crop, and size.

@kmilos kmilos moved this from Untriaged to Todo in New Camera Support Mar 26, 2024
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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

I've just uploaded the APS-C set. As you anticipated, the "L" size is not available.

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(yes, i really did mean that you should re-take existing samples too.)

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kmilos commented Mar 26, 2024

If you do, please contribute a new full set, please.

I think Roman wants really a new full set of everything, shot the same way in relatively quick succession.

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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

It's from the same shoot, settings and pose are identical to the original set as I have kept the camera in place between the two. I can retake the lot again but the only difference between the APS-C and the full frame set would be a slightly tighter timestamp :). I suggest you have a look at the lot if you can and confirm.

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I couldn't quite tell if they are literally from the same position,
or the camera was placed in the same-ish spot again, thus i've asked.

@norru thank you for contributing the full sample set!

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norru commented Mar 26, 2024

Yes, unless I have accidentally bumped the camera without realizing (unlikely), they should be shot from the same identical position. Just let me know if it's not the case, or you have a doubt about it, and I'll upload a new set.

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Nah, i guess this is good-enough. Thank you.

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Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/develop' into stable

* Make Olympus decompressor faster (-13%)
* Make Sony LJpeg decompressor faster (-33%)
* Support broken-by-design Blackmagic uncompressed DNG's. Refs. #11495.

* OM System OM-1 Mark II support. Fixes #16297.
* Fujifilm X100VI support. Fixes #16393.
* Sony ILCE-9M3 support. Fixes #16523.
* Phase One P25+ support. Fixes #16539.
* Add Panasonic DC-TZ95D alias. Fixes #16353.
* Remove explicit crop from Fujifilm X-Trans gen-4/5 cameras. Fixes #5729.
* Leica SL3 normalization
* Fix up Panasonic DMC-FZ28 crop modes. Fixes #16457.

* Add unsupported Panasonic placeholders
* Add unsupported Canon placeholders
* Add Fujifilm X100VI placeholder
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