中英文文献中 unicode 引号的处理

[zwz]

在用 bibutils 转化文献格式的时候，发现它会将英文引号'和"处理为‘,’,“,”（mac下拼音输入法也是这样的引号）

然后发现，这些引号，不管是否在中英文文献中，最终在pdf中都是全角的样子
这样的话，对于英文文献就显得非常难看和不合理

不知道是否可以添加对这些引号的自动处理？

以下是MWE

\documentclass[]{ctexart}
\usepackage[backend=biber,
  style=gb7714-2015]{biblatex}
\begin{filecontents}[force,noheader]{\jobname.bib}
@article{A01,
  author = {Author, A.},
  year = {2001},
  title = {“Test” User’ Manual},
  journaltitle = {A journal},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}
@article{A02,
  author = {张三},
  year = {2001},
  title = {“测试”手册},
  journaltitle = {测试},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\begin{document}

\fullcite{A01,A02}

\end{document}

[hushidong]

我测了一下，你的bib里面本来就是全角的引号啊，不是半角的，所以肯定会这样的。 最简单的方法是用文本编辑器修改bib，直接搜索替换就好了。 获取Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

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[zwz]

是吗，我在wps中看了一下，好像是半角的样子

然后我在emacs下看了一下其中两个引号的字符信息如下：

            character: “ (displayed as “) (codepoint 8220, #o20034, #x201c)
              charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
code point in charset: 0x201C
               script: symbol
               syntax: . 	which means: punctuation
             category: .:Base, <:Not at eol, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese
             to input: type "C-x 8 RET 201c" or "C-x 8 RET LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK"
          buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x9C
            file code: #xE2 #x80 #x9C (encoded by coding system utf-8)
              display: by this font (glyph code):
    mac-ct:-*-Menlo-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x6CC)



            character: ’ (displayed as ’) (codepoint 8217, #o20031, #x2019)
              charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
code point in charset: 0x2019
               script: symbol
               syntax: . 	which means: punctuation
             category: .:Base, >:Not at bol, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese
             to input: type "C-x 8 RET 2019" or "C-x 8 RET RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK"
          buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x99
            file code: #xE2 #x80 #x99 (encoded by coding system utf-8)
              display: by this font (glyph code):
    mac-ct:-*-Menlo-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x6C9)

[zepinglee]

Unicode 编码的弯引号不分全角、半角，显示的字形只跟字体有关。

[zwz]

Unicode 编码的弯引号不分全角、半角，显示的字形只跟字体有关。

嗯，我想也应该是这样
bibutils 没有道理会使用全角的引号

我将这些字符的具体信息贴上来
是不是可以根据其值，分中英文进行自动处理？

[zepinglee]

我将这些字符的具体信息贴上来 是不是可以根据其值，分中英文进行自动处理？

可以设置中英文，但主要是底层的 xeCJK 或 luatex-ja 还不能很方便地切换弯引号对应中英文字体。

[hushidong]

还是直接指定的好，

中文的使用输入法直接输入全角的引号：“,”，','
英文的使用默认英文输入的半角符号：``,",`,'

尽管 ``和` 映射的也是U+201C，U+2018，但会使用默认的英文字体。其它的则能正常区分的。

比如：

\documentclass[]{ctexart}
\usepackage[backend=biber,
  style=gb7714-2015]{biblatex}
\begin{filecontents}[force,noheader]{\jobname.bib}
@article{A01,
  author = {Author, A.},
  year = {2001},
  title = {“Test” User’ Manual}, #“=U+201C ”=U+201D ‘=U+2018 ’=U+2019
  journaltitle = {A journal},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}

@article{A03,
  author = {Author, A.},
  year = {2001},
  title = {``Test" User' Manual}, #"=U+0022 '=U+0027
  journaltitle = {A journal},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}

@article{A04,
  author = {张三},
  year = {2001},
  title = {``测试"手册},
  journaltitle = {测试},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}

@article{A02,
  author = {张三},
  year = {2001},
  title = {“测试”手册},
  journaltitle = {测试},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\begin{document}
\nocite{*}

\printbibliography

\end{document}

结果为：

换个字体后：

\documentclass[]{ctexart}
\usepackage[concrete]{fontsetup} 
\usepackage[backend=biber,
  style=gb7714-2015]{biblatex}
\begin{filecontents}[force,noheader]{\jobname.bib}
@article{A01,
  author = {Author, A.},
  year = {2001},
  title = {“Test” User’ Manual}, #“=U+201C ”=U+201D ‘=U+2018 ’=U+2019
  journaltitle = {A journal},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}

@article{A03,
  author = {Author, A.},
  year = {2001},
  title = {``Test" User' Manual}, #"=U+0022 '=U+0027
  journaltitle = {A journal},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}

@article{A04,
  author = {张三},
  year = {2001},
  title = {``测试"手册},
  journaltitle = {测试},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}

@article{A02,
  author = {张三},
  year = {2001},
  title = {“测试”手册},
  journaltitle = {测试},
  number = {1},
  pages = {1--4},
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\begin{document}
\nocite{*}

\printbibliography

\end{document}

结果为：

[zepinglee]

目前 xeCJK 就是这么设计的。

我记得有人提过用 babel 之类的机制切换语言时同时修改这些字符的字体映射（也就是兼容 babel），不过应该需要修改很多底层内容。