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Understanding of intervention description #737
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Hi Rene, |
@janekg89, thanks for the explanation! however, there seem to be some inconsistencies because not all the entries follow the system you described. for example if u look at PKDB00195, Clements1984, intervention_PK: 234 this is a "constant-infusion" "intravenous (iv)" intervention. and if u look at the paper, it states that the IV was given over 2h. on the other hand: PKDB00441 Calatayud1995 intervention_pk: 1292 further, this gets complicated when there are negative entries in "time". so now for example if t = -1h (e.g. PKDB00263 Shapiro1987 2674) then I am unsure how to interpret this correctly... obviously the IV started at t = -1h but is it also 1h long? or is the duration unknown? further, i am confused by what the difference is between "constant infusion" and "single-dose". at first, i assumed "single-dose" is always a bolus IV, then at least it would be clear that time always stands for the time of administration. but then there are also entries with time and time_end (like Duedahl2005, intenvetion 2436). so then i am unsure if i can just trust "time" for "single dose" to only be the start time or if this is also sometimes actually the duration of the infusion? i am sorry, if this sounds like criticism, actually I really like the database but uncertainities like this make it unfortunately difficult for me to use it. which is why i would really like to clarify/improve this. Best |
Hi Rene, sorry for the slow replies. We are currently organizing a large conference for next week. Afterwards we can address your issues. I suggest we have a short online meeting to discuss. Then it is more clear for us what you need and what your use case is. Please contact me via mail [email protected]. Best Matthias |
no worries, i fully understand! :) will contact you via email. |
Indeed this is not curated correctly, will be updated.
In later studies (see PKDB identifier) our curators should know the encoding pattern. Will be updated.
In the case of multiple interventions typically the most relevant intervention for the curator is encoded as t=0. In this case, it is the glucose application. In the publication, they write that peptides and insulin are administrated 60 min earlier.
Descriptions for most of the used types can be found at https://pk-db.com/curation. The description for “single-dose” is “Single dose of substance. In case of iv route this corresponds to a bolus injection. In case of oral route this is a single dose taken orally (often as tablet or solution).” Further, "time_end" is still allowed also in the case of bolus injection. Sometimes in the text some info is given on infusion duration. |
Hello,
I am a bit confused by the way interventions are defined. Especially "constant infusions" and "multiple doses".
If there is an IV infusion that was given constantly over some duration of X min, then how can I read out this duration? I see the entries "time" and "time_end" and would have expected this to give the start and endpoint of the administration but it seems "time_end" is actually empty for basically all entries. Instead, in some cases "time" seems to give the correct duration (for example 15 min), but then in other cases this is a negative value (like "-1 h"). this is confusing to me...
Similarly, i have problems understanding "multiple doses". How do I correctly read out how often and for how long a dose was given? For example, I have no idea what "1 days" would mean...
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