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Meeting on April 3, 2018

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Call on 3. April 2018

Doodle: https://ethz.doodle.com/poll/v3m6yu5fvhimrege

Location: https://yale.zoom.us/j/774989640

Agenda

Notes

very hard to know what's going on in this domain if you're not involved

webpage of "related initiatives" e.g. Bo Weidema project

list as part of the wiki RSS?

Two examples of 'smaller' projects that have just come up:

  • website that lists initiatives / RSS
  • catalog of existing data resources / incompatibilities

Badges were a kind of a 'small project'

Humble, dynamic, useful

really looking into individual papers that list data; concrete opportunity is this "scenario" work for resource efficiency- soon we will just be able to browse datasources; with a little extra effort we can add a lot of value to create this catalog.

Create a Flyer at GRC: describe what exists in this initiative (data sources, wiki, online course), invite people to contribute

data inventory

BONSAI project: "Big Open Network for sustainabiliy assessment and information"-- not sure where it's going

  • working on a master classification / hierarchy

3DLCI: another project, "demand driven data", started by PRe

IELab project: data contributors need to map their data to the IELab master classification system

Need to be sharper on the data model going into it- google sheets may not be ideal but it is a good (flexible) place to start

huge amount of work to manually single out which papers contain data, what kind of data, where the data live

at some point, for a certain project, people need to at least get into say 50 of those papers-- if you also spend the extra effort to record your inventory effort-- that you fill as you go

Hard to get other people to use one person's data model

Bigger question- where do we want to go right now? how to proceed.

Data catalog looks like a long term project, to make it comprehensive- but what we could do as a first step is to add these major LCA databases, major IO databases, dunno what there is for MFA, and have groups harmonize the data structures

Meet in the middle between no data model and strict data model

floWeaver

Lots of different domains have the concept of a "flow"-- objective is to make something very easy to get people involved-- make it easy for people to contribute

If you properly describe how people can add to your spreadsheet, you already have a sort of data model

lots of tools for drawing sankey diagrams-- they have their own data models-- is there a common model?

the objective is to automatically generate sankey diagrams

Mozilla sprint

Flows have a composition + dimensionality

Concluding remarks

Lacking a bigger vision of how to proceed

we all approach the problem from different angles

data harmonization vs data gathering + collecting

Use somebody else's data model as an exercise

Brandon will start a page on the wiki of "existing efforts" around open data in industrial ecology

Manifesto is a great initiative - Having a common vision will help everybody

Guillaume can develop the part about incentivizing open data publishing

Improve wiki structure

switching from advisers to achievers-- this is challenging because it puts us in "competition" with other groups e.g. bonsai... data news aggregator-- is this different from the ISIE news aggregator? versus: as advisers or leaders

Next Meeting 17 April, same bat time, same bat channel