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Add Context parameter to Enabled for synchronous metrics instruments #4262
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While I don't disagree that a Context
argument would be useful on the metric Enabled
operation, I disagree with the process in this PR.
Couple of problems:
- There are no prototypes that I can see.
- As I mentioned in the corresponding issue, there is no corresponding SDK behavior that can change as a result of this behavior. @pellared makes the argument that such behavior can be added in the future and adding the argument later would be a burden. He made a similar argument when adding additional parameters to the logger Enabled operation, to which I conceded that its acceptable to break up the API and SDK bits for faster iteration. I regret that comment. Our API operations and arguments should (and I'd like to say must) always be grounded in reality, with useful corresponding behaviors in the SDK reference implementations. Skipping the SDK portion of this (or saying we'll come back to it later) erodes our ability to properly evaluate proposals, and the arguments become hand-wavy "this seems right" and "this could be useful for future hypothetical". Adding corresponding SDK behaviors for proposed API enhancements adds additional burden, but keeps us honest. I propose we put a stop to this loose approach API evolution, and codify the idea I'm discussing as part of spec requirements.
Requesting changes to ensure this doesn't get merged before we have a chance to talk about this topic in the spec SIG.
I just want to clarify that for comparing these cases is not fair as for Regarding this issue and PR, the problem for my point of view, as an OTel Go maintainer, is that if https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification/blob/main/specification/metrics/api.md#enabled is stabilized as it is then it is ambiguous if adding a
From this perspective it seems that it would be breaking (but my interpretation may be wrong). @jmacd here finds that it would be OK and compliant. For me, it is uncertainty. This is the reason why I created the issue and this PR. Adding a parameter (later) to a method is a breaking change in Go and there is a pattern even documented in the standard library that:
I have a strong opinion, that in Go, we should not provide Enabled without I do not think it makes sense to add and release experimental API just to convivence that we need Maybe the resolution is to specify that languages that require passing Side note:
We are fine. I think you are doing a very good job and that your feedback is important. |
That capability does not exist in the log SDK doc, so it falls under "we'll come back to it later" from my comment.
I agree that would be unfortunate. It doesn't seem like stabilization is imminent, and we can / should make the consideration of
Again, I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have a
That doesn't seem right. Should languages with explicit context pass it when obtaining a tracer, meter, logger? Should all the span operations to add / update fields include a context argument? |
We discussed in the points about process from this comment in the 10/23/24 TC meeting. The question is: Should we add spec process language requiring that API proposals have corresponding SDK proposals? There was general consensus that we want to be judicious about adding new process, and rely on approver / TC judgement to evaluate individual cases. But at the same time, there was also consensus that it is generally a good practice to propose API changes with corresponding SDK changes (even if not strictly required). We talked about potentially adding something akin to a style guide or a values document, enumerating the types of things that are generally associated with successful PRs, but without normative language that might land us in process hell. For this PR in particular, we need to see a prototype. And speaking for myself, I'd like to see a more complete proposal showing the corresponding SDK changes. |
What if we do not have any prototype but we know that for Go it will be very hard to add this parameter in future if it will become needed. For instance, the Context required for measurements was also a "noop" until exemplars feature was added. (I may be wrong). Also some references to @jmacd comments: |
We should block stabilizing the operation until we resolve whether |
This PR was marked stale due to lack of activity. It will be closed in 7 days. |
Changing to draft until someone creates a prototype that would also demonstrate how the SDK could handle the passed context. Disclaimer: I am not working on any prototype, but I feel that this feature is important. |
Left a comment on the issue about Context parameter of Logger#enabled, which is intertwined with the proposal of this PR. |
This PR was marked stale due to lack of activity. It will be closed in 7 days. |
This PR was marked stale due to lack of activity. It will be closed in 7 days. |
This PR was marked stale due to lack of activity. It will be closed in 7 days. |
Closed as inactive. Feel free to reopen if this PR is still being worked on. |
Fixes #4256
Towards #4215
Other methods with
Context
parameter: